This weeks video ...
It's Ok to Say "Excuse Me"
to a Girl
During one my outings with some clients, I met a young man (no need to name him) whom I sent into a set of two girls sitting against a railing facing the dance floor. I watched as he approached, planted himself behind the girls and then scare one of them enough for her to jump an inch off her seat as he began to talk to them. He quickly plowed through and stayed in set until another guy came and AMOG'd him out.
He asked me what I thought later and I pointed out that his opening scared the girls. He asked for an alternative way to open them, as they were facing away from him and I told him there are several ways to open. He could have started with "excuse me", or "hey guys" for example (we didn't talk about the logistics of opening or why it doesn't really matter what the opener is, what more important is what you do before and during the opener). He was pretty surprised at the concept of saying "excuse me" to a girl.
That is what this post is about. There seems to be a common understanding that saying 'excuse me' or 'sorry', or in some cases being polite, to a girl is bad thing. This is yet another thing that is propagated by the seduction community that is wrong and subscribing to this idea will not allow you to reach a high level in your seduction.
This likely came about when one hurt, new, keyboard jockey with no actual experience with women heard about some naturals saying that they must take control of the girl and not supplicate to her or buy her drinks, or do anything for her, and this keyboard jockey started teaching other keyboard jockey's this and then it became dogma.
It's true that for some guys, this is a part of their game, a part of the overall picture that they are doing. But when did not being civil become a rule for newbies in the community? Consider this, if someone (guy or girl) is trying to interrupt you to get your attention and talk to you, would you prefer that he excuse himself first, or do you prefer that he just barrel in on your conversation and start barking at you? Also consider the great seducers of the past and of today, let's take George Clooney, for example. Very alpha guy known for bedding many women. Do you think he has taken 'excuse me' from his vocabulary? I have tons of videos of natural guys and none of them are so abrasive as to be rude. In fact many of them apologize to the girl for something to create vulnerability or comfort in the videos. Think about that.
It's true that you do not want to be a wuss and beta yourself to a girl. But it's not what you say that will do this, from my (direct and natural) standpoint, it's who you are, how you do it, what attitude do you have, and how much (confidence) believe you have in your ability to attract and seduce women that will show a girl that you are someone of value to her.
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"I had the opportunity to day sarge with Ronald when he came to Toronto. It was an awesome experience. I have sarged with many aspiring PUAs from the Toronto lair and surrounding areas over the past year. I can say without reservation that after winging with Ronald at the Eaton's Centre (a prime daytime location in TO), he has without a doubt the tightest day game of ANY I have seen.
Every girl he opened was HB8+ and all were within 30 seconds of his opener smiling and laughing (a state which he maintained them in for an ideal average of 15-20 minutes time after time again before closing) and displayed numerous signs of attraction.
Ronald does not peacock ridiculously or require social proof to get results. So what is it that makes him so effective? Firstly, he is fearless and opens sets regardless of logistics. A lot of other guys will be like "naa she's walking away, I can't open her like that" and make excuses. Not Ronald. He's in there, every time.
His strengths lie in his powerful body language, eye contact, calm and projecting voice, slew of cold reads and other routines, and solid inner game. Furthermore, he is down to earth and has a positive attitude. Ronald is always eager to share what he has learned, and, from what I've seen, he makes an exceptional PUA and dedicated coach in doing so." - Jon King, T.O.
"Ronald didn't teach me how to pick up women. Instead he taught me how to be playful and have fun with girls, in a way that makes them hot. He doesn't try to make girls do anything they don't want to (only things they'll wish they hadn't)."
- Napkin, T.O.
"Ronald first taught me into the social dynamics of women. Before, I was the guy who thought it was right to pay for the girl, to give her compliments, buy her drinks and kiss ass. Now, learning how to interact with women, I've realized that this was a total no-no. Forget the John Gray dating books or wherever you want to go for dating advice, girls ultimately do not know what they want. These creatures are emotional and not logical like us men. Unless you want the "lets just be friends...", learn social dynamics. Ronald has valuable insights and resources for this. Furthermore, he has helped me learn the skills to indirect game. Thanks man!"
- Tonic (Mike), Vancouver.
"First night at the club, Ronald spots two targets for me, he tells me to go in and he watches over me. I run out of material and eject. He looks for more targets and he then pushes me into a table with two girls, one being gamed by PlayBoy, I talk to this mixed Indian chick and Ronald is carefully watching over me. After I eject, he was able to give me some good body language advice on not leaning in and out to talk to the girl. I immediately realized what I did but couldn't have done it without his careful observation. A few minutes later he spots two girls sitting together he pushes me and Kjell into the set, we game them both and he watches over us. I talk and talk, Ronald notices I wasn't doing any kino and comes up to me and does the smoothest move ever. He grabs his watch and points at it like he's trying to tell me the time but he whispers in my ear to kino. I immediately do some hand reading and get her comfort up. I end up dancing with her and then doing a venue change in the club and leading the entire way. Fast forward at the end of the night, I think about # closing her and ask him about it, he tells me to do it just for the experience. I go back into the club and get her number. Docandwrter did a great job showing me what I was doing wrong, had an awesome eye for targets and noticing bad body language." - Top Tier, L.A.
"I'd say the single most important thing that contributed to my success is learning how to VIBE. This is why I loved Ronald's course. He was one of the few people in the community who emphasize vibing and connecting with people. Man this is powerful! When I go to the clubs to sarge, I purposely don't memorize canned material, because I prefer for the interaction to be 100% vibing, so I can improve this skill even more. The friends I hang out with have some of the tightest vibes I've ever seen. These guys are like natural comedians, and always have hot girlfriends. Man I learn so much just from being around these guys. Even when I'm not sarging, I'm always learning something."- Estese, Edmonton
"One day I saw Ronald's add in my local paper and was drawn to it, finaly an answer to my questions, finaly a way to learn. I went to his class and this prompted an entire new journey for me, a new skill to acquire, and once again prompted me into self discovery. I was his first student in victoria. Inner game, which i thought i had mastered isn't quite as simple as I thought it would be. Outter game, an entire new concept is something I am actively learning now. A new challenge entered my life. Becoming the best person I can be, I learned, is a life long process."
- Herodavid, Victoria
"You taught good stuff" - E.C., Edmonton
"I wanted to say you did a great job in coaching and teaching us the techniques that will help us in meeting women. You definitely made us work hard during the evening in approaching women and I thought that helped." - Ray, Victoria
"I thought it was really good meeting you. Watching you in action was great, and I finally understand kino escalation. I admit that I found the daytime approaches extremely nerve-racking and draining, versus say the nightclub approaches. When we were done I didn't feel like talking to anyone! I felt really sleepy that night so I left when the bootcamp ended, and I wanted to shake your hand and say thanks but you were on the phone somewhere..." - Switch, Edmonton
"Hi Ronald. Feedback good and bad? There's no bad. Its all good. Life changing. Very interesting and informative. More so, it was great meeting you and Michael. You guys have a fantastic energy. Testimonial?
"fucking awesome" - Unicorn, Edmonton
"The course that you were teaching was highly informative. You taught me that you have to connect emotionaly with a woman if you want to be the guy she sleeps with instead of the "friend" guy. You made me realize that i dont need to be scared of girls and that i am the one who holds the power. If i see a girl i like, i'm no longer scared to approach her. I could never figure out why my alpha male friends would always get the girls and i was left to be alone, and you taught me to be the alpha male, to stand up for myself and display confidence that would draw girls towards me. You even spent extra time with us to make sure "no man was left behind" and that we understood the concept. I enjoyed the small class which allowed you to make sure all our questions were answered, no matter how simply or complicated they were. You taught me that it doesnt matter what you look like, a girl will want to be with you if you make her feel great, which is easily done by using the method you taught me. The field learning was very interesting, you taught me that it doesnt matter where you are, that there are girls to be found everywhere!
I just wanted to say that I was totally awe struck when i saw you go for the set of 10 girls in town, you were able to totally stop them in their tracks and we even jumped in there and had them occupied for several minutes, it just shows that no matter how great the odds, that you can succeed with woman and that the principles that you taught hold true. It also shows the power of wingmans and just how important they are to split up large groups of girls, divide and conquer!" - D.A., Victoria
"Your seminar was good because you clearly outlined the social dynamics of "The Game." You know your stuff, which was made clear as a result of your experience, connections and feedback I received from some of the others guys for the in-field portion. Again, the seminar reinforced that, on a theoretical level, I knew all of the elements of the game." - Illusionist, Edmonton
"I am starting to see the matrix now, it was like the time I learned Santa Claus didn't exist, lol.
Thanks for the workshop, I learned a lot of very valuable and useful knowledge and the field experience was awesome, I certainly look forward to doing that again with you." - Carlos, Vancouver
"Even though I was there for only sunday evening, I thought that the material that you put together was great. I just wanted to thank you for coming out. It was worth every penny. Like I said, the material that was being put out was great. All relevant and applicable. Looking forward to when you come out next time or when I come out to Van City." - Nav, Edmonton
"Dear Ronald,
I believe that you have mastered the first stage of seduction – the most difficult part –getting to know the girl from the point when she is a stranger. You definitely have created your own school of thoughts – which is essential to every true guru – they have to have their own stuff which should also work like the natural laws that govern the universe. I believe that you have achieved these successfully – IN OTHER WORDS –YOU HAVE CRACKED THE CODE!
I do appreciate that you teach us methods instead of give us information – I see a difference between methods and small skills – small skills work in certain situations but a method can be applied in all situations – in other words, I want to see the forest not just the tree." - James K, Vancouver
"I really enjoyed the course, it took me out of my comfort zone. What I enjoyed most was learning about IOI. Previously I didn't notice or ignored when a woman was interested in me, now I am much more aware. I enjoyed going out into the feild at the Calgary Stampede and learned a lot that night. I have recently gone sarging with the group from Edmonton and I feel with their experience I will learn much from them." - Gene, Edmonton, AB
"Your course was inspiring, the Seduction Level One was a nice way for me to bring allot of my previous knowledge into practice, a way for me to collect my thoughts. I enjoyed your take on eye contact and making face...speaking to the natural woman and living without apology or defense where ideals that spoke strongly to me in both Zan and your seminars. I am still using the seduction anchor you gave me during our one-on-one thank you. Michael was a huge help at the stampede driving me into sets and tweaking my rapport building skills. I took so much away from my time with you guys." - Klyph, Edmonton, AB.
"I really enjoyed the course last weekend. It was pretty fun even when i got blown out. The most valuable part for me was just seeing your and the other coaches (Mike and Stephane) out in the field. All the hours of listening and reading the forums is not as valuable as seeing it being done in real life and then trying it ourselves. I liked listening to your different perspectives and being exposed to your different coaching styles. I was able to learn a lot from all of you." - Mike, Edmonton, AB.
"I really enjoyed the course,all this stuff about A1,A2,C2 ect...always seemed kind of complicated to me,remembering all this stuff and keeping a convo going was very distracting and ultimately detrimental to my interactions.Putting it in terms of four or five steps was a refreshing new way of thinking for me. Also the infield stuff was really rewarding for me since it was great to get feedback right away from an instructor.
I also enjoyed Zan's presentation and the way that he was easy to interact with. He showed me that it's ok to feel the way that I do and that I should not try to cover up my feelings of caring for a woman. I now feel empowered in a new way by letting out that part of me that is more natural and more likely be suited for "becoming a woman's fantasy". One way that I would use your material and Zan's would be this way; using the vibing part for the opening and attracting a girl,when you get to the follow up date,using Zan's philosophy about women is something that would be extremely powerfull in my opinion. Not only do you have a emotional connection that you first established when you approached her(like you taught us) but,now you can expand her mind by been direct and brutually honest with your intentions as Zan teaches,likely that is something that no other guy has ever done with her." Omar, Calgary, AB
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